![]() The BANLIST (UBERS): Of course box cover legendaries like Kyogre and Groudon will make their home in ubers and other broken pokemon like Darkrai and Shaymin-Sky will too. I’ll just quickly explain my thought process for UBERS and OU. I may end up being wrong on most of this stuff, but we won’t find out until the games come out. I mostly went off on how the pokemon were tiered in DPP and how they are tiered in either Gen 7 or Gen 8. To be honest, if SMOGON decides to have ladders for the remakes, I doubt they will go below UU, seeing as National Dex only goes to UU at the moment and Gen 8 SWSH will most likely remain more popular on the ladder compared to BDSP. ![]() This is assuming that BDSP will use gen 8 mechanics and items (such as temporary weather, heavy-duty boots, no pursuit, etc). These are my personal predictions for where I believe that many pokemon will land on the SMOGON tiers. Shiftry should probably rise too, Miltank as well, Lickilicky could be another possibility too. Luxray might be pretty decent with Guts and Absol is far too strong for a tier this low. So should Hitmonchan and maybe Sandslash. Ludicolo, Omastar and maybe Gorebyss should rise to NU. Venomoth being this low is a god damn travesty. Typhlosion will never survive in any tier where Charizard exists, even if Charizard isn't particularly viable in that meta, it will still smother Typhlosion. Ambipom in NU is a huge stretch if Sneasel stays, given that Sneasel is strictly better than it. Jolteon and Raichu should swap placings, given that Raichu is literally just a better version of Jolteon. Regigigas and Slaking are unviable and nothing has changed that, down to PU they go. Bold of you to assume that without Arena Trap that Dugtrio is anything less than PU. This tiering is the biggest problem tbh, you've vastly overestimated the viability of a lot of the things here. Froslass should probably fall, it's not super consistent outside of Hyper Offence, but Linoone Hyper Offence could take off in UU, so who knows.Įlectivire in RU might be an overshoot, but who knows, Volt Switch could make it a half way decent offensive pivot. Solid listing overall, but Linoone, Entei, Gligar and possibly Xatu should rise. I'm glad you had the sense to leave Electivire and Dusknoir out of OU. Flygon will likely eat shit, Togekiss gaining the Fairy type and Gliscor now getting Poison Heal should spell it's death knell. Crawduant and Staraptor being OU seems like it could be a bit of a stretch, they're strong, but not very consistent wallbreakers. It's pretty hard to justify Gengar over Alakazam these days, since Alakazam does a lot of what Gengar does, but better. With the dedicated lead metagame gone, so with it goes Azelf. Just gonna shoot out some things I disagree with, going by tier order. Mods may remove posts at their discretion.Ĭlick Here for All Links and Subs! Click Here to See the Wiki! Daily Post Schedule Day
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